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tim
2004-02-29, 16:52
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move along nothing to see here folks!

Beejus
2004-03-01, 03:33
I'm gonna make a statement...however, it probably isn't at all related to the article posted by Tim because, well, it was another post that was just too god damn long for my liking..

I'm gonna say this:

I think with No Child Left Behind, the educational system is taking a step into communism by making every student equal no matter what.

My school (starting next year, after I graduate) is removing all advanced and lower ability courses and making 1 class for each course... for example we have right now:

English 4
English 4A
AP English

Starting next year, there will only be English 4.

this disturbs me for 2 reasons: 1.) My favorite teachers are probably going to see the dreaded pink slip of death and 2.) Students that have the ability to achieve more than others will have no way of doing so...


Anywho, the Blue Collar Comedy Tour is on right now so I'm gonna finish that up and hit the sack...

g'nite

-Beejus O' Reily

slx
2004-03-01, 03:40
Originally posted by wishful thinking
and have read the entirety of the christian bible and now know what it said..
you know what it said...... give me a fukin break will you dude

slx
2004-03-01, 05:41
Originally posted by wishful thinking
if you read Charles Dicken's A Christmas Carrol wouldn't you then know what it said too, steve? absolutely....

then answer me this einstein...if the bible is so crystal clear why is that what it says is so [un]interpretive...

....what did it say?

eclectica
2004-03-01, 09:51
"No child left behind"

People voted for it because they liked the sound of it.

slx
2004-03-01, 15:44
Originally posted by wishful thinking
i see to annoy u with my ego again not at all harb....i'm absolute in my willingness to allow each to their own

Criminal_Sniper
2004-03-24, 23:46
hahahaha
funny how someone could not believe in God and believe in the devil he created
i dont believe in God OR Satan
neither make sense
and communism works pretty well Tim u should give it a run one day
the problem with some "Commies" is that some get greedy
i think that equality is essential but people that want to get better education should pay for it and better beer get the better ingredients
just examples
the thing is that a democracy especially capitalist is in need of ripping of controling it subjects
thats how they are run well
conservatives?
now are they really help us?
or big business?

the bible is completely unclear
how can people blindly read it and not understand much if any of it
i read something again untill i do understand it
living my life by it?
thats a fools game
not one i play

and the communist threat is more like the communist fear
they are very scared of Cuba
Why?
they set a better example
and would the sole superpower of our time want that?
they are like rome speading out - the modern colonial empire (they just dont say it - but then they dont say a lot)
its can not go on forever
the debt
the wars
they will have to start thinking
and of u read any einstein?
its almost as unclear as the bible but takes bit of working out
but it can be worked out
to me the bible makes no sense once u have even figured out the babble

Dollar_Girl
2004-03-25, 13:31
hahahaha

to me the bible makes no sense once u have even figured out the babble

how do u know? have you figured out the 'babble'? or merely concluded based on others interpretations.


Have u ever lived under communist rule?


When i was first sprouting pubic hair i used to think communism could work, but then i realised that equality is a bunch of bullshit, and global equality is a bunch of bullshit tenfold.

I enjoy when people preach financial and social equality, yet dislike picturing their lives without their luxuries... nobody wants to live a life of purely essential needs being met, and nobody wants to or should have to live their lives without even their essential needs of water and food being satisfied.

and what is so great about the Cuban system? Free education and health? but what of it? how many cubans near you are specialists, doctors or company executives? I think of Cuba as one of those people who coughs up bits of their lungs every morning, yet refuses to aknowledge that smoking 50 a day i quickly riding them into the ground.

Idealism is nobodys saviour and equality is ideal to those who are willing to sacrafice for some 'greater good', but to be hoenst with u... i dont know anybody who would be willing to sacrafice an opportunity for their children to go to a privellaged school or to wear fabulous clothes and eat fabulous things just so some other kid can have some soap to take a bath. Sacrifice doesn't work when it is forced upon people.

Pragmatic society, leave images of utopia for bed time.

And Beej... u missed out on nothing by not reading the original post that started this thread.

Criminal_Sniper
2004-03-25, 14:34
ive not lived under communists though i know a few that have
$ the reason why u believe equality is bullshit is because it is
in its current state it is
everyone is so firm on equality though they dont see that nothing is fucking equal
and those that know hide it or cant or wont do anything about it
maybe the only interpretation u have or image perhaps is an unequal one
i dont know what the fuck global equality is because everyone is very different and people react differently
culture taken into account
the world should all have the same rights
rights are supposed to be given not taken
im just glad i live nowhere near tall buildings or anything big cause like they did spain they will most likely target Aus :(
all these huge lies are just being covered up
with NO explaination given
thats how people like it
they dont want to hear and what they do hear they dont talk about unless it effects them
i believe that the US has a lot of nukes so would i be able to pre-emptively strike them as a nation? (imagining here)
why is it the powers we elect and provide for and that are suppose to protect us - cheat in elections cheat our money and controll us with power
down here people dont go too far
say in america those "violent" peacfull protesters getting beaten
people move within the law and get beaten back by coppers?
we are all at the bottom
the rich are just above us
and the big dog the government on thier leeches
why the fuck should they run our money
shouldnt there be a seperate sector in government to deal with the treasury that isnt politically based
why do the poor keep getting poorer
because of the inequality given to the people
while we are on the lowest possible incomes and such one of us gets a little more so one is a little pissed
so the people start to fight
we have reason to be afraid but people are scared of all the wrong things
im not sure if many of understand the complete wrongness of this world and how deep it goes
my parents generation would have a clue about anything and they had more going on in thier lifetimes
but things are hotting up now
enjoy :)

eclectica
2004-03-25, 23:13
A lot of the original appeal of Communism was the Socialistic aspect. For example, getting the government involved in our lives rather than having a Capitalistic, Darwinistic society.

In the United States, a lot of the appeal of the Communists was adopted by president Roosevelt, who established the use of the government to help defend and protect the poor. Today most countries have rules such as minimum wages and labor unions, and they are common things that are not considered radical. 80 years ago the Communists were advocating the same type of thing.

There really is no pure Capitalism or Communism. Laws by nature are Communistic, and there have always been laws and rules, even in Capitalistic societies.

Interestingly I've seen a common link between the brutality of Capitalism and the brutality of Democracy. This is used in the context of a society which believes that Capitalism is a good thing. But is it? It depends what how it is defined. Does pure "capitalism" mean having no laws or complete Anarchy? Only when people think that Capitalism by definition is the opposite of Socialism or Communism.

The brutality of both Capitalism and Democracy occurs when what is popular rules out rather than what is right. I think that doing the right thing means being able to defy the masses. Do you agree with me that at times a person has to be undemocratic in order to be morally correct and to do the right thing?

Ironically the will of the community has to be defied in order to preserve the rights of the members of the community. The irony and confusion exists because a community consists of individuals, and protecting the individual goes at odds with protecting the community, but if the individual is not valued then the community will be meaningless too.

Criminal_Sniper
2004-03-26, 04:27
E its the following of thier rules that we cant always do aswell
its a bad situation for us
there are over 120 more foreign materials in our bodies since about 50 years ago
we are slowly dying off
and we are told not to smoke but they can sell them and charge a hefty tax
is it part of the idea that anything illegal people will want more
capitalism could work i guess
but with the fuckheads that only have thier own interests in hand it all goes wrong
not many leaders really do much for the people
except the promise to around election time
any president gone to a school secretely and not had it planned and taped?
i mean nothing is done in simple good will anymore
one thing about anarchists is they dont like organisation but organise themselves
people also dont know what they really want

Dollar_Girl
2004-03-26, 10:04
capitalism or communism, people did and do prioritise self interest first. Eclectica once wrote that he would rather see a million [?] chinese people die than see his family meet their fate. Democracy works on self interest because people will vote for what is best for their situtation at a current point of time. Depending on the needs and wants of individuals, collected, the majority of people with similar needs at a current point of time will take the vote. People tend to be out to get quick results. If one polititian promised to 'solve' world hunger by 2005, it would seem more appealing than a polititian who proposed a solution stretching over 20 years. Hidden dangers behind the illusion are that fast promises tend to bomb, but fast promises are fast votes. These fast votes are in nobodys interest but the polititians.

How can a person defy the masses and be undemocratic in order to do what is morally correct? morally correct for what majority.. or minority... for what individual? what is good for u, is not good for me and what is good for us may doom your neighbours.

Morality has its place in the system, but the systems needs will always take first place to morality.

I like ot think of myself as a person with morals... i see people who dont understand why australia can't take all the worlds refugees... maybe it is in their immediate interest, escape violent danger, hunger etc... but gratifying these immediate interest of these individuals may endanger the long term interests of the state as a unit in the global network. Morally we should be saviours to all, realistically that wont happen.

Dollar_Girl
2004-03-26, 10:49
ive not lived under communists though i know a few that have
$ the reason why u believe equality is bullshit is because it is
in its current state it is
everyone is so firm on equality though they dont see that nothing is fucking equal
and those that know hide it or cant or wont do anything about it
maybe the only interpretation u have or image perhaps is an unequal one
i dont know what the fuck global equality is because everyone is very different and people react differently
culture taken into account
the world should all have the same rights
rights are supposed to be given not taken
im just glad i live nowhere near tall buildings or anything big cause like they did spain they will most likely target Aus :(
all these huge lies are just being covered up
with NO explaination given
thats how people like it
they dont want to hear and what they do hear they dont talk about unless it effects them
i believe that the US has a lot of nukes so would i be able to pre-emptively strike them as a nation? (imagining here)
why is it the powers we elect and provide for and that are suppose to protect us - cheat in elections cheat our money and controll us with power
down here people dont go too far
say in america those "violent" peacfull protesters getting beaten
people move within the law and get beaten back by coppers?
we are all at the bottom
the rich are just above us
and the big dog the government on thier leeches
why the fuck should they run our money
shouldnt there be a seperate sector in government to deal with the treasury that isnt politically based
why do the poor keep getting poorer
because of the inequality given to the people
while we are on the lowest possible incomes and such one of us gets a little more so one is a little pissed
so the people start to fight
we have reason to be afraid but people are scared of all the wrong things
im not sure if many of understand the complete wrongness of this world and how deep it goes
my parents generation would have a clue about anything and they had more going on in thier lifetimes
but things are hotting up now
enjoy :)


Wasn't it you that said there should be a global set of morals? wouldn't that be a step towards some sort of 'global equality'? Whatever morality means to you, from whatever sectors in life, you didn't take into consideration culture when thinking morality, yet global equality is a vision you can't comprehend due to seperating factors between populations.

Something as simple (or maybe as complicated) as the right to life means something completely different to you, than it might to another on the other side of the world. Would you sacrafice yourself for a god? would u refuse to let another willing soul to sacrifice themself for their god? Who is to determine morality and rights and refusal of needs or wants when it comes to cultural barriers.

I am in fear of terror attacks on Australian soil. I view this country as almost a virginal state... i feel safe here... i'm afraid of it all coming crashing down when there are people blown up or killed due to terrorism. I'm afraid it will leave me bitter towards people. I'm afraid of growing and developing to 'hate' people, because so far i hate no-one. Maybe it is sheltered or unrealistic or even selfish to be afraid of becoming bitter.

The fight between 'rebels' (protestors) and the law has always been complicated yet somehow beautiful in all its GORY ... looking back on past protests, the violence and resistance can be seen as inspriational to stand up for what we believe in. People before us fought the law and shed blood and resisted... one can look atthat in many angles - two being - that it is unfair that there is brutal resistance towards ppl functionign within the law and another being some glorious and gory fight for necessity and desire.

Nobody could possibly forget images of the Tiananmen protests... the image of the lone student standing infront of those giant tanks... i always cry when thinking of that... partially tears of sadness and partially tears of inspriation because these KIDS had BALLS... i imagine how strongly they must have felt... maybe a strong sense of sadness or injustice... i odnt even know what a person would feel when standing infront of a giant tank rolling towards them... what drives a person to do that? what feeling is strong enough to create this DRIVE?

mekajinn
2004-03-26, 10:54
the main problem with democracy is that people vote according to their own self interest. When modern democracy was formulated and considered by philosophers such as Rousseau they felt that a populace would consider something known as the 'common good'... the welfare of all... and although this does happen to a certain extent in modern democracy it is well down the list in a person's priorities.

Dolly is right when she states that forms of government such as communism cannot be forced upon people... ultimately it fails, and the proof is there for all to see... or perhaps it failed because we live in a divided world and a war by proxy was being fought from the end of World War II until the fall of the Berlin Wall.

On the surface it would seem that the capitalist way of life is far better for wealth creation... but in reality capitalism has merely created a system where money can be 'invented'... banks are allowed to lend out 10 times as much money as they hold in deposits... if everyone was allowed to do that we would all live in luxury no? it is merely a cheat... a way to create wealth without actually creating anything to sunstantiate that wealth, and it has been this way since the gold standard was dropped in the 1930s.

Communism... Capitalism... all isms... this argument is just jism IMO =/

mekajinn
2004-03-26, 12:36
i don't want to be bombarded by communistic bullshit.so keep ur thoughts to urself...i'll try to do the same in relation to christianity...but u are so indoctrinated and set in ur beliefs on communism u seek every opportunity to invade a thread of mine, a conversation, and inject it at every chance or opportunity u get..and u commies are becoming nothing more than tedious bores to me..this behaviour needs to stop or i will begin avoiding u alltogether..if this is all u can babble and spew forth from u mouth is some idealistic dribble about the nobility of ur system and how it's supposed to work...communism does not work pure and simple..it has failed and anyone who practices and preaches it to me is deluding themselves based upon a false belief about unrealistic ideals.

Bottomline? shut up

end of story.

-Tim

funny that u seem to think it is perfectly acceptable for u to write reams and reams of absolute shit tho isn't it?

Criminal_Sniper
2004-03-26, 15:23
well i find it the most funny now that the same people they paid and trained to fight the soviets are now the biggest "fear" of the planet right now
and all this so called evidence that hasnt been showing up
lets change the subject and noone will notice
it wasnt WMD it was terrorists inside there or oil opps did i say oil
they were saying on our tv sometime that iraq will be one of the few decromatic countries in the middle east now
well they are muslims i believe that if they want to follow the quaran then follow it
we dont have to do it here but u do it
but one thing is that the religion dosent really back up what they are doing
it may suggest in some nasty sort of intimidation trick
the bible is packed with all sorts of bad shit
they must have been killing the shit out of each other bacj in those days
sounds a bit like america
saying one thing and doing another or explaining it with some very different rules
made up it seems
the word terrorist how much u heard it more than usual lately?
and how many conversations would involve something or the sort?
now are people just being distracted from the real bullshit?
im not saying communism is the best
none are perfect
why not try to reach close to it?
take the best of everything
why does the government run our money?
when its been proved that they are hoplessly pathetic at doing that well enough
if it was run outside then it would be like a tribute to our country
the more we put in the better it goes
if we werent happy then they are out of jobs right?
pretty quickly
and we would know the total amount put through and taken out
if it didnt match they would have us to answer to right?
they should get some bonus that enables them to survive nicely
and hopefully movies stars would start going to jail for coke n shit
man when will it end
:p

slx
2004-03-26, 18:57
if anyone has a gripe about any thread on this board......
stop reading the board...every member here...i say again....every member here has nearly absolute freedom to say what they want about whatever they want


Doghopper X...you might consider eating shit dude....it may toughen you up some

don't write me anymore unless you're wounded and bleeding

slx
2004-03-26, 19:00
funny that u seem to think it is perfectly acceptable for u to write reams and reams of absolute shit tho isn't it?for the benefit of the uninformd...it is perfectly acceptable to "write reams and reams of absolute shit"

just flip the page dude...close your eyes, cover them with your hand...have someone else do it for you....don't connect to the web....get drunk....get laid....



grow up

mekajinn
2004-03-26, 23:17
for the benefit of the uninformd...it is perfectly acceptable to "write reams and reams of absolute shit"

just flip the page dude...close your eyes, cover them with your hand...have someone else do it for you....don't connect to the web....get drunk....get laid....



grow up


dude... i never said it wasn't acceptable... it was harby that was suggesting that...

it isn't my fault u cannot decipher plain english, but thanks for those suggestions... u may have told everyone ur a lawyer or whatever but it doesn't elevate u above the position of moron following those last 2 posts... and as for writing to u... dude that was a joke... get a sense of humour ffs... i don't give a shit about anyone on this board, or what they say.

mekajinn
2004-03-26, 23:20
blah... nearly absolute freedom... blah


nearly absolute freedom?


ur a fucking idiot hahahhahhah

hahahha


hahhahahhaha


u try to be clever yet show the world what a total fool u truly are... how the fuck could u ever think that those 3 words could go together like that?

Dollar_Girl
2004-03-26, 23:51
I think it is very easy to glorify what one believes in, wether it be a religion or political/economic system etc. Different desires to glorify different ideas is what sparks a lively debate. I feel a bit cynical because i dont really seem to have the need to glorify anything because i can't seem to believe in a purity of an economic or political system, religion etc.

I think the lack of 'purity' in a system is what creates positives and negatives as it sparks people to venture out from within the boundaries of idealism and beyond pragmatism. Breaking the rules has always been a means of inspiration and creation. Those who dared to speak and create are those that have changed our lifes forever - wether for the best or for the worst. How are we to know wether the good or bad has been of more benefit to us in the future?

mekajinn
2004-03-27, 01:07
I think it is very easy to glorify what one believes in, wether it be a religion or political/economic system etc. Different desires to glorify different ideas is what sparks a lively debate. I feel a bit cynical because i dont really seem to have the need to glorify anything because i can't seem to believe in a purity of an economic or political system, religion etc.

I think the lack of 'purity' in a system is what creates positives and negatives as it sparks people to venture out from within the boundaries of idealism and beyond pragmatism. Breaking the rules has always been a means of inspiration and creation. Those who dared to speak and create are those that have changed our lifes forever - wether for the best or for the worst. How are we to know wether the good or bad has been of more benefit to us in the future?


=]

slx
2004-03-27, 01:08
dude... i never said it wasn't acceptable... it was harby that was suggesting that...

it isn't my fault u cannot decipher plain english, but thanks for those suggestions... u may have told everyone ur a lawyer or whatever but it doesn't elevate u above the position of moron following those last 2 posts... and as for writing to u... dude that was a joke... get a sense of humour ffs... i don't give a shit about anyone on this board, or what they say.i am a moron and it's good that you're sharp enough to recognize same....

as you may be the only one other than mods/admin that's aware of your sending us all a notice of complaint about harbs threads...to paraphrase....you said harb's threads were all shit in said complaint.....

am i close dude...i deleted the e-mail you sent already so i can't quote it....ok?

and....

i may or may not like harb or anyone elses crap anymore than the next dude....but in this lifetime, they have the right to spout as much crap about crap as they wish

slx, JD,PhD,Moron

mekajinn
2004-03-27, 01:11
i am a moron and it's good that you're sharp enough to recognize same....

as you may be the only one other than mods/admin that's aware of you're sending us all a notice of complaint about harbs threads...to paraphrase....you said harb's threads were all shit in said complaint.....

am i close dude...i deleted the e-mail you sent already so i can't quote it....ok?

and....

i may or may not like harb or anyone elses crap anymore than the next dude....but in this lifetime, they have the right to spout as much crap about crap as they wish

slx, JD,PhD,Moron

heh... it was tongue in cheek... i never claimed to have a great sense of humour

;)

slx
2004-03-27, 01:17
nearly absolute freedom?


ur a fucking idiot hahahhahhah

hahahha


hahhahahhaha


u try to be clever yet show the world what a total fool u truly are... how the fuck could u ever think that those 3 words could go together like that?perhaps i end with the upper hand dogbreath.....

i never did think they went together, why would you?

and yep...again, you're sharp enough to recognize a fool when you see one...i'm now aware that i can't pull wool over your eyes dude.....


say....are you sure you spelled "hahhahahhaha" & "hahahha" correctly?

slx
2004-03-27, 01:27
as for writing to u... dude that was a joke...now that i know how sharp you are, i'm sure you can see that i'm bouncing around this thread....sorry for lack of continuity dude....













and oh yeah & btw

you ever hear the adage about yelling fire in a crowded theatre or the fable about the lil boy that always yell'd out there was a wolf?

eclectica
2004-03-27, 01:39
lol at this thread.

i am intrigued by dollar_girl's post #30 in this thread where she posted her font size as small. i was wondering if she meant to say by doing so that the content of speech is more important than the voice used to say it. a person could be quiet spoken and have something really important to say. sometimes i speak quietly, and then when i see that people have no respect for my quiet voice, i raise it to a volume which is really loud, and would even send the self-proclaimed "alpha males" running for refuge. i think that's the best way to be in life; to be quiet but willing to yell really loud when you need to.

it tires me to have to yell and show people my fierce side. the world has created a monster out of me, but monsters become uncontrollable after a while. once a man becomes untamed and wild in spirit, he is both a blessing and a menace to the status quo of society.

i am like dollar_girl in that i find it heartening to think of the dude stand up to the tank in china. the power of the human spirit moves me emotionally, and besides, i cry easily and often.

mekajinn
2004-03-27, 02:00
perhaps i end with the upper hand dogbreath.....

i never did think they went together, why would you?

and yep...again, you're sharp enough to recognize a fool when you see one...i'm now aware that i can't pull wool over your eyes dude.....


say....are you sure you spelled "hahhahahhaha" & "hahahha" correctly?

dog breath? touche oh great wit of the internet...


and, just for the sake of my limited intellect, could u tell my why, if you didn't think those words went together, did u put them together like that?

that is the reason why i thought that u thought they went together... because u fucking wrote them down together, jesus fucking christ man, if u don't think they go together then don't fucking write them down like that, can u not see how someone may 'mistakenly' think that u meant to put them together if u happen to write them next to each other in a sentence.


ha, ha and thrice ha dickhead.

mekajinn
2004-03-27, 02:03
and oh yeah & btw

you ever hear the adage about yelling fire in a crowded theatre or the fable about the lil boy that always yell'd out there was a wolf?


yes... i also heard the fable about the guy that stuck words together and then tried to pretend that he didn't mean those particular words to go together.

slx
2004-03-27, 02:49
and, just for the sake of my limited intellect, could u tell my why, if you didn't think those words went together, did u put them together like that?maybe it's a weakness of mine but i doubt that your intellect's limited...i don't discount anyone i don't know...perhaps by your making that particular remark you may feel insecure in your abilities....raise your head high dude, walk tall!

yes, indeed i did put them together as they appear......why?..... no particular reason


do you believe in absolutes dude?

slx
2004-03-27, 02:54
yes... i also heard the fable about the guy that stuck words together and then tried to pretend that he didn't mean those particular words to go together.what did i deny?.....i admit...i made that post, used those words.......

don't you find it amazing the many different little things that tend to upset different people?

i do

mekajinn
2004-03-27, 10:54
what did i deny?.....i admit...i made that post, used those words.......

don't you find it amazing the many different little things that tend to upset different people?

i do

yes I do... unless ur implying i was 'upset'... as i said before, i don't give a shit about anyone on this board, or what they say =]

also, i find that people put words together to try and communicate some thought, description or idea as accurately as possible, rather than 'no particular reason'...

Criminal_Sniper
2004-03-27, 11:04
i agree lol@ this thread
its heated up nicely
what would u expect
lol
this is why the world has been at war for most human existence
whenever that is regardless science or religions way
people dont need to just build wars and kill and make political decisions about crap
that comes after
sounds like a middle east peace deal that happens when people are bombing the shit out of each day
we need understanding
all we get is propaganda
stop bitching about each others intellects
trust me we are nothing much compared to some out there
but we can be somethingthing like that if we tried
get along or not that ur choice but comeon :) and we all stand for something so we wont and cant back down
we are all stuborn and i know i am
i voted today for local area :)
there was libs labour greens a few independants and socialists
well i voted and went outside and sparked a smoke and wetn on my way
get a $100 fine if i didnt
:p

slx
2004-03-27, 13:14
..do you believe in absolutes dude?

mekajinn
2004-03-27, 13:46
fuck me we have a pair of comedians...


yes i do believe in absolutes... but i don't believe in nearly absolutes... why ask me if i believe in absolutes when what u said was 'nearly absolute'?

how close to absolute is nearly absolute?


in the end ur clever nuff to realise that what i said was true... that using those words together is pointless and meaningless...



as for u tim... whatever goes on between dollar and i is none of ur concern, but rest assured ur interference caused a lot of pain and grief, so i hope that makes u feel pleased with urself.

mekajinn
2004-03-27, 14:32
i have logs of every conversation *gasp* yes i keep logs..i am the historian in my family since my aunt died..i'd do well in the field of library technician..if dollar_girl reads this she can surely she you as a conniving schemer with the deception and manipulation on your part denying you said the things you did to slx..the same way you denied saying the things you said to me.

dollar_girl i was gonna ask you..does it REALLY matter to you if he DID SAY the things he said to me...would you really want to know them?

i think its more comfortable for you to believe he didn't say them..i do have the 'proof'..there is no 'pudding' surrounding it..just actual copies of the emails sent AND recieved along with pm's in my box..if you doubt anything i will more than gladly give you access to whatever you want..I HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE...just look at the shit your hiding..christ man you can even admit to loving her on a goddam internet board under your fucking aliases let alone your real name.

don't fuck with a girl if ur too embarassed to buy the condoms.

1. what's to stop u fucking with those logs to make them say whatever u want them to say?

2. I haven't denied saying anything to slx

3. even the name mekajinn is an alias u prick... she knows my real name, age, address, phone number, cock size etc... so what? what exactly does it have to do with u?

i think ur a pretty sad case really... do u have nothing better to do with ur time than try and fuck up other people's relationships?


oh, and btw einstein... anything i said to u in email or any other private format was liberally laced with untruths, simply because i KNEW u were the type of cunt that wouldn't keep things to himself... i'm not stupid, as if i would go bleating to u pouring my heart out and treating u as a confident... u really are stupid u know.

mekajinn
2004-03-27, 14:34
don't fuck with a girl if ur too embarassed to buy the condoms.


i hope u follow ur own advice... there are enough retards in the world already without any more little tims running around =]


have a nice day d00d =D

Dollar_Girl
2004-03-27, 14:45
On different days i put on different characters. At work i have to be smiling and joyful, so i put on a 'happy go lucky' type of presentation which i find that people like during their brief encounter with me. During this presentation i speak with a louder tone of voice with a happy elevation of tone and talk to people like i have known them for years. I find that people tip better when i am happy and elevated within their presence. However, my boss is cheap and i do not get to keep my tips, so i just act happy because well... it makes me happier and makes my day go by faster... because when the customers are gone, it's just me and my boss again... a misery none of u could possibly understand.

Sometimes i will put on a 'smart arse' attitude, but i find people dont like sarcasm. I dont do this at work. I also find i dont like myself when i am sarcastic. It puts me in a negative state of mind when i am by far not a negative person.

I met a lady on the train yesterday and in 40 minutes we talked about our love lives, her man, her marriage, her miscarriage, my problems and even about our familys and where we would like to holiday. I enjoyed that because we were both happy and open for that brief time.

I enjoy the compnay of people, because i find that i am happiest when having the opportunity to talk to many different people. The customers are the only reason i enjoy being a waitress, that, and the espresso machine. Plus i have a good flirt with the supply guy once a week.

I by nature am shy and quiet. I only recently got a smack of confidence when i started working for a coffee roasting company. I realised that people weren't as scary as they seemed to be, and that i am not any lamer than all the other lamers our there. Equal grounds for all lame people.

Anyway, the people in our lives contribute greatly to our happiness or sadness etc, so it is important to know that it is ok to be sad, and happy, and no matter what our emotional state, we are never alone.

mekajinn
2004-03-27, 14:50
Give her YOUR LOGS of the conversation and or 'coversations' you've admitted to having with me...I will give her mine..she can look and see for herself..what..if anything..is different.

now your only 'ass-saving' tactic is to deny and insult..let me do that for you:

"i didn't save anything..unlike you i have no need for such things...some insult..maybe another one."

i would like to assume you did save these things to use them against me if you thought you could..do i have your permission to post all of our private correspondences here in this thread publicly?

'conveniently' i do not have them... as for 'ass-saving'... i don't have any pets, let alone some kind of donkey variant.


let me see if i can spell this out for u in a manner u will comprehend.


I... DO... NOT... CARE!


lmfao... get a life molecule mind =D

slx
2004-03-27, 17:12
yes i do believe in absolutes... but i don't believe in nearly absolutes... why ask me if i believe in absolutes when what u said was 'nearly absolute'?one of the defenitions of rules is...
"a basic generalization that is accepted as true and that can be used as a basis for reasoning or conduct"

the only absolute i'm aware of is death...isn't it actually a mind fuck to consider any other "absolute" as anything other than "nearly"... anything else i'd consider an absolute is only an idea

tell me about other absolutes dude....i certainly don't know everything and am always willing and eager to learn

slx
2004-03-27, 17:18
I... DO... NOT... CARE!you've said that several times in this thread alone...however it appears to be a weakness rather than a conviction....an escape

everyone cares, everyone that comes here with any regularity and scribbles a few lame words cares otherwise we'd not be here




you're here dude

Criminal_Sniper
2004-03-27, 17:50
yep true i dont like a lot of forms so i just dont go there
nothing holding anyone except for ur will to come
u must care for something
if u want indiscriminate hatred and flaming ask nic or go to a nice big forum like zp :)

mekajinn
2004-03-28, 01:54
one of the defenitions of rules is...
"a basic generalization that is accepted as true and that can be used as a basis for reasoning or conduct"

the only absolute i'm aware of is death...isn't it actually a mind fuck to consider any other "absolute" as anything other than "nearly"... anything else i'd consider an absolute is only an idea

tell me about other absolutes dude....i certainly don't know everything and am always willing and eager to learn


u don't know that death is absolute mate... have u ever been dead? ;)

would a measure of temperature being absolute zero count as an absolute? if indeed matter cannot get any colder than -273 degrees centigrade then it must be an absolute no?

um... and perhaps a room with no windows and illumination would be absolutely dark... if no light could get in at all... and perhaps a space with no matter within it is an absolute too... but i can understand that these examples could be considered abstract because they do not exist... but i think they could exist if an individual or group of people wished it so... so perhaps they are valid examples of absolutes?

in the end i was just being a pedant cuz i am petty and small minded... maybe even absolutely small minded =D

mekajinn
2004-03-28, 01:56
you've said that several times in this thread alone...however it appears to be a weakness rather than a conviction....an escape

everyone cares, everyone that comes here with any regularity and scribbles a few lame words cares otherwise we'd not be here




you're here dude


absolutely =]

slx
2004-03-28, 02:14
absolutely =]perhaps dude

perhaps to your last 2, above







change?

Dollar_Girl
2004-03-28, 11:19
eatting rice in the dark is scary because in the dark u could swear the mound of rice is moving... each grain... moving.... like maggots. Yuck. Dude, so gross.

mekajinn
2004-03-28, 14:25
eatting rice in the dark is scary because in the dark u could swear the mound of rice is moving... each grain... moving.... like maggots. Yuck. Dude, so gross.


i hate to tell u this, but i was hiding in the dark with a bowl of maggots, and when the opportunity presented itself i switched ur rice for the aforementioned maggots... bon apetit hahahhahhaa =D

Criminal_Sniper
2004-03-29, 15:02
Het Tim just thought id ask u what u know about communism?
cause if u knew it u wouldnt say its bullshit at all
it was written by one of the greatest minds to have existed
capitalism was written by green motivated fuckedheads
but one more thing dont confuse communism with stalinism
he was a fucker
u are run by money and will never get out of the circle

Dollar_Girl
2004-03-29, 23:09
Het Tim just thought id ask u what u know about communism?
cause if u knew it u wouldnt say its bullshit at all
it was written by one of the greatest minds to have existed
capitalism was written by green motivated fuckedheads
but one more thing dont confuse communism with stalinism
he was a fucker
u are run by money and will never get out of the circle


i see you write alot of fractured sentences with loud opinions yet not much to back any of them up. Capitalism has very long roots and inspiration and is still being crafted to this very day. Communism has gone through a very difficult and brutal exeuction and is morphing into a more modern system.

I have seen u promote communism, put down capitalism, but it is very simple to say something like "FUCK CAPITALISM BLOWS" and then end it there without anything to make it sound like anything more than an unbacked opinion.

I believe in this age it is necessary to not stunt growth, because it would cause some sort of 'collapse' and 'retraction' of the global system... like the death of our universe, we have been told of some grand "crunch". Communism can only function with the instillation of fear, because people will not offer themselves for a lifestyle of pure necessity. Communism in Europe meant ironically social isolation, high crime and exhagerated greed and wants, corruption, state isolation, fear of jail, it lead to incredibaly high amounts of SNITCHES and spying, on everyone to your neighbour to family members...

In order to leave communist europe, we had to leave without even telling our own family we were going, because that would ENDANGER their lives... we had to leave everything... house, furniture, clothes... we had to weld our birth documents to the bottom of the car ... because if those documents were found, my parents would have been thrown into political prison and i would have been dumped in an orphanage.

Communism in order to be executed peacefully would require mass global willingness, and and once we have had a taste for competition on the grand scale, who is going to want to go back to giving it all up? Point is, if it is free healthcare and education your after, try to think of it as a clausable possibility in a future evolved capitalist system. Don't rule out capitalism because u dislike it's current state, and don't rule out positive evolution.

Capitalism breeds greed and thus gaps between populations... but communism breeds greed too, because the system is like a teenager arguing with parents... the more they dotn want her to see THAT boy, the more she will sneak into his house to fuck him at night. To deprive is to breed greed, and to over expose is to breed greed. Now you tell me wether deprivation or over exposure is healthier?

Competition is a 'burden' and a 'delight' of advanced intelligence, it has the ability to MAKE us and as a return DESTROY AND BREAK US. Somethings are unavoidable, and the birth, evolution and hence death of anything... man, animal, insect, political system or an entire species is natural, wether or not death occured without external interveining factors.

We need to make way for MAN MADE factors leading to desctruction, because that is reality. We need to try our best to prevent it, because that is reality too. Life is a always a struggle of doing good and doing bad and preventing either being done. Sometimes even good things have negative consequences.

Dollar_Girl
2004-03-29, 23:15
you really have to ask yourself why so many people were risking death by escaping from an 'ideal' system. You have to ask yourself why to this day communism has never REALLY left europe... because the legacy is still embeded within the people and their children... just like racism. If you have experienced the legacy of communism in europe, the legacy that remains strong to this day, u would question your ideal system, and after so many attempts to make it a reality, u also have to question wether u REALLY believe it could be executed in such a way that entire populations remain HAPPY and satisfied with their lives and state.


Do u honestly believe communism can be 'properly' executed? and if so, why is it that u believe the original theory of communism remains without fault that an inerpretation can even be based on it?

mekajinn
2004-03-29, 23:24
you really have to ask yourself why so many people were risking death by escaping from an 'ideal' system. You have to ask yourself why to this day communism has never REALLY left europe...

cept for china eh? only a fifth of the world's population... but hey, they don't count perhaps =

Dollar_Girl
2004-03-30, 00:22
u can hardly call china communist. I call them TRANSFORMIST hahaha going through THE UNOFFICIAL CHANGE where u morph political and economic systems without it really being a massive revolution. Point is China has been opening up its economy to the global market, and relatively quickly is changing its economic policies to encourage global investors by offering some sort of safety and reliability. Right now investing in china is a massive risk because the policies are poorly established to cater enough interest and investor confidence. Give it maybe 10 more years and u will see a capitalist economy BOOMING in China. China however lacks many pirmary resources and heavily relies on manufactured exports and imports mainly primary resources. Other countries are catching onto exporting manufactured goods tho, bit of healthy competition. Soon we will see more trade agreements being negotiated and the complexity of global trade breaking through barriers reachign new highs of a new type of barrier. U can get rid of tarrifs, embargos and quotas etc but u will never be rid of limitations caused by trade agreements.

nicobie
2004-03-30, 00:29
cept for china eh? only a fifth of the world's population... but hey, they don't count perhaps =


not quite Meka...

They are on their way and are kickin' Western Ass already.

nicobie
2004-03-30, 00:35
Harby~ tim? ....... weirdo?


Gotta figure it's 'lurkies shity BB. He likes peeps who fuc over others.

Criminal_Sniper
2004-03-30, 05:34
look at cuba as an example not stalin as ive said before
bad communism is as bad as bad capitalism
the problem is we make so much shit so quick and we stay POOR FOR ALL OUR WORK!
the classes can be seen
now we are slaves in this world
we should get what we put in and we dont
i dont need to show examples because we can see the injustice in this world
the wrongs being done to us by our so called protectors
dont blame me if u dont understand me ill try harder to get my point across if u need me to
i think communism can work
from what ive seen of capitalism its evil and is built to control the masses
those things u said about communism in europe those things thing happen in america worse than any country
australia is getting very bad
while the government raises taxes, inflation, cuts social spending, etc we are making less
theres a scheme through centerlink right to help u with businesses
they will help u all the way except it cant be any competition to anything in australia
they are building a monopolised system
i believe if people were given the means to pruduce (sure there would be some hurdles to get over) that we would sustain life and be happy
we have to fight our way in to get a job and then still we barely survive
then when single mothers and such arent surviving on one job they get another and that lead to social instability
i cant believe the stubborness of people to let go of greed
if everyone did it would u?
machines took our place
one day will have no way to live
and then they cut of welfare
well they do in america its only a matter of time before they do here
they are cutting health care and precription prices
and bumping up private health
same with schools
same with how many others
how many oil companies have got grants from the state to build offshore oil rigs in some country because they say they are helping the people
now do we see any of this help?
no we just hear about the profits
putting people before profits is the wrong thing to do
they count us like thier money but hold us less dear
its been shown time and time again
if u believe i need to give u more evidence ask for it
im happy to find out if i dont know already too :)

Dollar_Girl
2004-03-30, 08:29
I dont understand why you keep bringing up Cuba, its not like it is some ideal example of fabulous communism at work. What is the point of free education and health care when your resources to make these things practical are absolutely minimal.

I dont really see your making any valid points, besides describing some things about society, government and economics that u personally dislike. Show some valid roots to your opinions, some valid forecasts. You are pointing out current events because that is what you observe, but it takes more than that to promote or put down a system.

There is zero evidence that communism even can work. Also it is important to remember that there is no universal political or economic system, and because a system that a collected number of countries is functioning under isnt' working for EVERYONE, it doesn't mean that the system is usless or unable to be improved.

One word i havn't seen written in this debate is the mighty debate of GLOBALISATION and the movement towards breaking down economic, political and cultural barriers - some would see this as a mass evolution towards a singular political and economic infrastructure...which would mean, for the present time, the death of communism. Ofcourse it is a huge debate - the good, the bad, the problem of the increasing class gap in society, the ethical issue of corrupting culture etc

but there is always a 'class' gap wether under the capitalist system or the communist system... one class gap is however, 'unofficial' and 'unspoken' of.

I see you write many opinionated phrases such as :

"capitalism is evil"
"capitalism is there to control the masses"
"FUCK GREED"

etc

What exactly do u think communism is? is it not a system that CONTROLLS THE MASSES? Do u honestly believe in fair wealth distribution? In a one party system you wont hear of unequal wealth distributin, because there is nobody there to EXPOSE IT, but it doesnt' mean it doesnt' exist. Communism creates lacking drive, lacking motivation, fear, lacking competition...

infact it reminds me of the old trade agreements with europe and china etc... eastern europe would give china war machinery and planes... china would give us massive shipping containers of PENCILS ... i forgot what that economical agreement was called, but i laughed when i heard this. My mother used to tell me that as a kid, due to that trade, that the country was full of so many chinese pencils, that she had pencils "falling out of her arse".

You say you can't believe in the stuborness of people to let go of greed... why dont you let go of your own greed and be an example of what u strive to achieve? go and donate your computer, your shoes... ofcourse keep ONE pair... go donate your clothes, your goods, your left over money after u have paid your necessities... go on, dont preach, make it happen. WHY DON'T YOU START THE REVOLUTION BROTHER?

mekajinn
2004-03-30, 11:40
communism isn't sposed to have a central government as such... i believe lenin and trotsky thought a central govt should exist for only 5 years after the revolution, and then the soviet republics should govern themselves... in a form of anarchy almost... a state that is governed from the bottom up...

problem with this is that people can't be trusted to govern themselves, probably because they are too greedy and not evolved enough mentally to be able to live their lives responsibly without big brother...

in the end it's a nice idea, but it goes against human nature... or rather it goes against most human's natures... ask mister US of A if he is prepared to give up his 2 miles to the gallon 4x4 offroad tank so that several thousand africans can eat and what do u think the answer will be?

nicobie
2004-03-31, 01:17
Exactly right.

Human greed has to be included into the equation before any social restraints can work.

slx
2004-03-31, 04:19
problem with this is that people can't be trusted to govern themselves, probably because they are too greedy and not evolved enough mentally to be able to live their lives responsibly without big brother... i mostly agree with that notion but most governments, regardless of flavor, survive because of the dependency upon them they've created within the majority population

i believe any society could and would eventually self govern & and has the "mental" ability.... like animals in the wild...it's unthinking to create order in the pack...

however...
it might require several generations to achieve....some "evolution" may be required

Criminal_Sniper
2004-03-31, 04:41
its not communisms fault that people are greedy fuckheads
what u said about giving my computer and shoes away is not really a reality
firstly its paid for by someone else whom i am very gratefull towards and secondly my shoes are my only pair :p im not rich are you?
would u like me to share them with someone?
comon u know that one person cant start a revolution
i think if people knew more about how capitalism and communism works there would be more people picking communism
capitalism u can see the wrongs
the greed and such are built in
with communism its when someone gets greedy or wants more power that things go wrong
and i believe we would have to start our own structure
maybe expand or retract from communism a little
we could start up regional governments linked to a council that decides
voteing would be commonplace for ALL decisions
no more governments doing things we dont want
usually if we dont need it we dont want it
but the things todays governments bring forward are often just bad for us
i dont think a central government can be lead by one man or one party
its got to be numbers of them but they are lead by the country
maybe equal amounts from each part of the country (whichever that might be)
if there was a total change in industry we would possibly do it
but people are too scared to move away from money
i think money should only be used in international trade
we could have conscription based army
2 years in ya life when ya turn 18
given a lang grant and some starting money and/or goods perhaps unless u want to stay military (i wouldnt mind it)
people could produce and someone would always want it because of a lack of overprodution
local markets would become good again
local communities would become closer once again
(ive got a neighbour on one side who wants to kill me and one ive not spoken to)
and there would be barter and haggling
u would always get a good deal
if not u move to someone else
that would partly fix economical problems
the gocernment would be able to provide nessesary equiptment for u to use
noone would be left with a dream and not be able to do things
i think a lot of creative development has been crushed so its time to fix that
more later.......

Criminal_Sniper
2004-03-31, 08:37
Tim i dont want to go to heaven
if there was a heaven
ID BE GOING TO HELL ANYWAY
i couldnt care less about christian shit
but when its all around me and people try to force it apon me i will make my stand

Criminal_Sniper
2004-03-31, 14:02
hey step back a fucking second and read my words not make urs own up
something christians do all the time
i said I DO BELIEVE IN HEAVEN
in the bible it says it is a firmament (solid structure)
now that would fuck us getting to mars wouldnt it?
i can prove u wrong
u have a very very difficult time proving urself
and im the idiot?
now because of some idiots u will tell me communism dosent work
why do people say one thing when they mean another but when other people say what they mean they criticice something completely non relevant to it
i never said its perfect i said it could work
now as someone said to me nazi Germany was very succesfull economically and such (untill the end of the way that is :p ) but that doesnt mean what they were doing was good
sure there are monsters and they need to be dealt with
dont u think most of nazi Germany would have backed them in some way?
now dosent that seem to be the same for the US government (and many others)
they are doing well so what could they possibly do wrong?
fucking bullshit when the truth is uncovered and then denies or hidden with lies and bullshit
if a group of people were dedicated and had the right mindset i believe it could work very well for them
power and quality isnt measured by economic and military strengths
competition can be unhealthy

Criminal_Sniper
2004-03-31, 16:34
i was refering to communism though yeah we all seem somewhat dedicated
though not very often in the same way or towards the same thing
ur honesty to GOD means nothing to ME
will this program be using illegal business practices such as pyramid selling?
no doubt because the only real way to get there is hard work
theres no such thing as a free lunch
theres always a cost to someone
im not sure id be able to give u money
im only just surviving myself :p

slx
2004-03-31, 16:36
Will any of you help me to achieve this goal by giving me the money to go?tell me why you can't work?

Criminal_Sniper
2004-03-31, 16:41
faith is a bad word
i have faith in myself
its not to say im perfect but there are things about me that arent perfect that is what makes it faith
if i was certain would i need faith?
so by saying faith are u saying ur uncertain?

slx
2004-04-01, 02:18
can I tell you in a pm..or do you require me to do so in public? i don't require anything harb...you appear to be the one asking for a handout....

if i tell you the reason..honestly will you foot the entire bill regardless

of the reason.. that's extremely doubtful...but one never knows what might happen or

do my needs have to meet some preset criteria for your willingness to help me? lol....i require nothing from anyone here

if it does..than we see here..communism doesn't work.now that's off the subject and stretching things a bit

just think of me as that poor african child without shoes on his feet. can't do that harb...you aren't that poor little child...if you were in that situation, you'd not be on the web, have a pc or a clean bed at night

can you or would you help someone who is not able to return the deedyes...i strive to do so each day of my life...when i do anything to assist another, it's never conditional or has a string attached

in this case 'pay you back'?harb...i do understand the difference between a handout and a loan same as i understand the diff between a bum and someone in need

I often hear of protesters having vigils outside prison walls for massmurderer's

and such trying to get the governor to spare their lives out of sympathy

either for their plight or objections to ideals such as not agreeing with the

death penalty..i'm a man who has murdered no one...won't some or one of you

choose to favor EXISTING life...my life...over future failure in like such as

waiting until i have to rob, steal or kill to feed myself or a future family.

why not help a worthy indivividual..but worthiness has nothing to do with it..

attitude has nothing to do with..even the early christian church did this sort

of thing..i don't know how long that lasted..this thread is about communism

i'm trying to take it over like you usually see me do here in making EVERY

THREAD about myself..i do need some help, steve.harb......

you are the cause of everything that happens to you....
be careful what you cause dude




now....why are you unable to work & support yourself harb?

slx
2004-04-01, 03:31
I am physically and mentally disabled, dude.how so...to what extent

explain the disabilities so we understand

slx
2004-04-01, 04:24
omission ..

Criminal_Sniper
2004-04-01, 04:29
this isnt communism
if i had my own land and were producing i may be able to give u a job or lend u the money
but when im living in capitalism and im poor how can u say communism dosent work
dont play us LIKE SHEEP! slightly dissapointing and shows ur lack of knowledge on the subject matter
did u really think we would go oh shit we are wrong
oh and the church is better than the commies cause they would do it
Die Kirche ist sheisse!! :D
http://www.marxists.org/
maybe read up a little
and read the capitalist system (the whole thing not just the better side) dont have a link for ya right now but i can find one if u cant :)

Criminal_Sniper
2004-04-01, 10:04
so its wrong to call someone a christian when they are "christians"
and wrong to call the christian fellowship "christians"
do i go politically correct and say believers?
that could include anyone
what do u mean by saying i can not judge the quality of life for others
I AM PART OF OTHERS
TO U I AM AN OTHER
i can judge all i like
i have the right to not be oppressed
im not judging good things and making them out to look bad
im picking bad things out of things that are supposedly good but noones got the guts to say HEY THIS IS WRONG

Criminal_Sniper
2004-04-01, 10:40
i never meant it in a bad way
if being called a christian is so fucking offensive to u why are u one?
christians have no problems calling a non believer an athiest?
i dont have a problem being called one cept i lean to buddhism
and dosent being a christian make ur beliefs thoughts and judgement somewhat christian?
ill just call u tim but what about the other ones?
and dont forget belief is throughout all mono and polytheistic religions
and even the supernatural
and hey astrology
so are u one of those aswell?
if we cant describe people then how do we single them out when needed?
not like im going on a killing spree of christians
like on police radio they are allowed to say white but not black hispanic asian or arab
what is the political correctness for when its not applied to everyone?
i guess just another things related to our uneven imbalanced world

eclectica
2004-04-02, 06:22
What's in a name? A person who we call "Christian", by any other name, would still be a self-righteous hypocritical closeted homosexual.

Criminal_Sniper
2004-04-02, 08:00
well i cant see the homosexual part of being christian but yeah ur right E
:p

Criminal_Sniper
2004-04-03, 13:23
Tim
homosexuals are homosexuals from birth
they usually dont know till girls dont get them off
now if god condemmed and hates them so much why create them?
just like satan
youve got a twisted view on things man
i may have said it before
lack of accepting peoples differences is a big mistake
because everyone is different in some way
but some ideas are with no backing and are born from pure hatred
ie : the bible
read it one day man and dont read it as if its believable
try to believe it and understand!
but the bible dosent want u to do that
and says that men and no judges and cannot understand it
thats why u have faith man u dont get it
if u knew u wouldnt need faith right?
i dont believe or have faith in science in the biblical sence of the word
i understand it

Criminal_Sniper
2004-04-03, 15:48
smack me all u fucking like cunt
it wont make u right
yes i called u cunt i believe it rather fitting
u are bullshit
ive seen enough of ur stupid opinions to start to dislike them
if u are what u say u are something very very bad
and very discriminative

Criminal_Sniper
2004-04-04, 19:00
yeah and im sure ull jump through the screen and SMACK ME!
im shitting myself really
i cant agree to disagree with some people on somethings
they are either things that go against human nature (not ur perception of it either)

Criminal_Sniper
2004-04-11, 09:01
in capitalism u do the right thing and work hard and a lot of bad can still happen (not accidents or getting robbed or stupid things like that)

in communism is u try hard the work pays off
ive not got the real chance to live with it properly
but when i do i know my ideals have changed for the better from it
im not perfect no far from it
humans are born to be like this

and stop using my word u jackass :p

Criminal_Sniper
2004-04-12, 01:50
yeah sure man do what ya like :p
u did it fine
though i dont think i ever go to the end really in the end
im sure i never really will and if i do it will be a miracle :)

im not sure my ideas are not purely communism
maybe an evolution of it
where its not just a simple system where wages are equal
i believe in equal opportunity
noone should get more for less work right?
being given equal opportunities and being rewarded the same depending on diffulculty and time put into it
i believe people should have community ties
u scratch my back ill scratch urs
the ones who dont want to work will get nothing
if they cant thats understandable
to me free education and health and the rest only follow that
where people dont have the chance to be exploited by the government but have all the same opportunities to get ahead that is truely an equal society to me

Criminal_Sniper
2004-04-12, 21:24
funny how now that its gone a little less general people have no opinions
u want proof u want a real political system ill make one for ya
but dont argue my intentions when u cant even criticise and comment on it
i want to be sure if im right OR wrong and if people have more to say on the issue
enough fucking drama and get back into the threads
fuck this poetry too
damn get ur own poetry thread and stop making dozens (*exaggerated im sure) of threads with 1 poem
(yes i hate poetry)
i like to keep those very secret last thoughts i can keep secret - secret
but dont listen to me ;)

Criminal_Sniper
2004-04-12, 22:30
im not critisising u man
its poetry in general im not really into not a problem with urs

Dollar_Girl
2004-04-13, 09:27
you winge alot harb. People who like to winge daily usually feel sorry for themselves and feel victimised by life. I've met people who have survived war, murder, poverty, hunger and dictators, who complain less than you.

I'm sorry that you are unhappy, but alot of people are, because they have been spoilt in a life of easy availability.

Children who have no toys, but only each other to play with and make-up games with, tend to have more fun, than children who have a big toy-box filled with plastic crap who play alone in a room.

Dollar_Girl
2004-04-13, 12:20
in reg. to the 'murdered survivor' ii was describing their surroundings and over-all situation.

I'm not 'going with the flow' as to what is the 'popular opinoin of harby', i'm just informing u of what i think. If it hurts you, then perhaps you have something to think about. My impression is that you feel sorry for yourself and perhaps not conscoiusly, attempt to make those around you feel sorry for you too.



shame you didnt get enough donations to go to your life seminar, but i think u should consult a few other people first, like doctors, before u spend money on a 3 hour seminar.

Dollar_Girl
2004-04-13, 13:10
it hurts for you to be 'exposed' publicaly? you have never been shy in posting other peoples Personal Messages sent to you, or emails, or conversations. Personally i would rather not log into msn to talk to u, because somehow it always ends up on a public board, so if that is how it is meant to be, then why not just make it all public in the first place? You have never considered me when you posted my personal messages or my conversations, yet you ask for consideration?

You are not a failure. There is no such thing. "failure" is just a name people throw around... like "god" or "when i win the lotto"

eclectica
2004-04-13, 21:09
katarina i would speak to you in hell if that's where I have to go to do it.
In the past you've said you would choose Jesus over Dollar_Girl if you had to choose between one of the two.

Do you lie to Jesus and tell him you're devoted to him too?
:rebuke:

Shame on you. I can't believe you have the nerve to be cheating on poor Jesus by flirting with Dollar_Girl, when he even died on the cross for you.

You can't have it both ways. Come clean and confess your duplicitous nature.

You had better hope that Jesus doesn't read this message board, or he'll see that you are a two-timer. You should express your professed love and devotion to Dollar_Girl only by way of PM, because Jesus can't read your PMs on this board.

Criminal_Sniper
2004-04-14, 09:28
u would just better not hope that God tells Jesus
he only has to wisper in his right ear
that could be ur undoing Tim
unless he already has.........

Dollar_Girl
2004-04-14, 11:56
why didn't god have a daughter, i'm sick of all this male dominated bullshit.

here is a post it drawing i did a while back that demonstrates my current opinion of jesus lovers :


http://home.iprimus.com.au/katarinat/puppet-post-it-scan.jpg

Criminal_Sniper
2004-04-14, 19:58
haha nice one
I SHOULD BE MASTER!
MASTER OF PUPPETS IS PULLING UR STRINGS........

JESUS SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!