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eclectica
2003-11-06, 09:40
This is totally lame when you consider that not even napsterite.com or napsterite.net is registered. I wonder if they have an automated search process that sends out e-mails. There are 256 domains (http://www.whois.sc/search/?q=napster&application=search_engine&bh=A&pool=A&rows=100&bc=25) with the name "napster" in it.

Received: from adsl-63-199-204-159.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.199.204.159] (HELO issac)
From: Lars Harvey
Date: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 21:14 GMT
To: webmaster
Subject: napsterite.org

Dear Domain Owner,

I am contacting you on behalf of Internet Identity's client, Napster, LLC,
regarding your ownership of the domain name napsterite.org. Napster, LLC is
the holder of the registered trademark "Napster". The domain name
napsterite.org is so closely related to the Napster trademark that your
ownership and use of the name can cause confusion for Napster customers and
others.

We respectfully request that you transfer the ownership and control of the
domain napsterite.org to Napster, LLC. Napster is willing to compensate you
for your purchase cost for the remaining registration period for the domain,
as well as any fees charged to you by your registrar or the registry for the
transfer. Napster, LLC otherwise reserves all legal rights to take further
action if necessary.

Please respond to let me know if you agree to the transfer. We can then
arrange the details for the transfer.

Thank you.

Regards,
Lars Harvey
________________
Lars Harvey
Director of Customer Relations
Internet Identity

lars.harvey@internetidentity.com
888-239-6932 ext. 85

Comprehensive worldwide domain name management services
http://www.internetidentity.com

Beejus
2003-11-09, 23:41
damnit E, you confused me!!

I thought for sure that the commercials on t.v., in e-mails, on pop-up banners said:

www.napsterite.org

NOT

www.NAPSTER.com


How much compensation did he offer you?

and what's your plans?

and how bout all the other Napsterites and Napigator etc...??

I want answers damnit!:director:

eclectica
2003-11-10, 00:04
I didn't even contact the guy, though I guess I should, for some fun and entertainment.

eclectica
2003-11-10, 02:22
Internet Identity's contact information on their website is as follows:
Internet Identity
Box 1295
Tacoma, WA 98402
888-239-6932

A whois on their domain gives this information:
Domain name: INTERNETIDENTITY.COM
Administrative Contact:
Administration, ForeverMail admin@forevermail.com
Box 1295
Tacoma, WA 98402
US
888-766-2315 Fax: 425-699-6597

In other sites these names are also used:
ForeverMail Administration
Digital Footprints International, LLC

Everything points them to being the same as forevermail.com. So now let's look into them further. Their whois is:
Domain name: FOREVERMAIL.COM
Administrative Contact:
Administration, ForeverMail admin@forevermail.com
Box 12848
Overland Park, KS 66282
US
253-588-4932 Fax: 913 652-9613

Now I go to the AnyWho reverse telephone lookup (http://www.anywho.com/rl.html) to see what those numbers bring:
253-588-4932 (registrant phone)
Kammerer, Brian
8421 Edgewater Dr SW
LAKEWOOD, WA 98499

913-652-9613 (registrant fax)
Schieszer, Doug
9501 Canterbury St
SHAWNEE MISSION, KS 66206

I also saw this on a few sites:
253-589-2471 (billing phone)
415 Gove St.
Steilacoom WA 98388

The domain forevermail.com has the IP address of 208.186.64.120, and a total of nineteen IP addresses point to that site. I list them all below. With the exception of the ones with asteriks next to them, all of them have identitcal sites to the forevermail.com site.

http://208.186.64.120 (19 addresses below)
www.Address.org
www.Alums.org
www.Ehlacademy.org
www.Familymail.org
www.Fan.org
www.Forevermail.com
www.Grad.org
* www.Greatnorthernbrewing.com
www.Lover.org
www.Mailhost.org
www.Member.org
www.Membershipemail.com
* www.Membershipmail.com
* www.Mymailbox.org
www.Owner.org
www.Promail.com
www.Qmail.com
* www.Sendemback.org
www.User.org

:rolleyes:

Okay, so now what? :confused:

Beejus
2003-11-10, 12:05
I think it could be a possible hijack attempt.

but I also have trust issues:coward:

eclectica
2003-11-10, 17:51
Here are some more domains affiliated with these folks:
http://www.digital-footprints.com/
http://www.namedepartment.com/

Of those 19 listed in the post above, the two ones which look hijacked are greatnorthernbrewing.com and sendemback.org. I tried to contact the folks at the beer place to ask them what their relationship is with forevermail.com. Maybe it's their webhoster? I'm thinking that their domains got hijacked and their sites got copied over to work on the Optic Fusion server in Tacoma, Washington. Then would they use the site to harvest credit card or e-mail information? Or perhaps this forevermail.com is also a webhoster, or they supposedly managed domain services of some type but they ended up hijacking them instead?

The one that may give me an answer if the beer company doesn't answer is:
http://www.matchmobile.com/

If that site was hijacked, then match.com should be aware of it, because there is a mention of them on the whois query. So I'll contact them.

eclectica
2003-11-10, 18:11
Match.com has the Match Mobile feature listed on their site as http://mobile.match.com, which is a subdomain of match.com.

From: eclectica
Date: 2003-11-10 @ 18:03 GMT
To: hostmaster@tmcs.net
Subject: matchmobile.com

What is your relationship to forevermail.com? I see this site here is identical to your Match Mobile site:
http://www.matchmobile.com/

Here is the whois information:
http://www.whois.sc/matchmobile.com

Was your domain hijacked, or was it allowed to lapse? Are they using the login information in a malicious manner?

eclectica
2003-11-13, 03:30
From: customercare@mobile.match.com
Date: 2003-11-12 @ 15:43 GMT
To: eclectica
Subject: RE: Match Mobile

Thank you for writing to Match.com,

We have visited the forevermail.com website and it does not at all appear to be similar to our Match Mobile website. Forever mail appears to be a website for creating an email address. Please feel free to contact us if you have any further questions or concerns.

Your Match.com Customer Care Team,

Margarita M.

TRACKING NUMBER: A00001256185-00006163295

From: eclectica
Date: 2003-11-12 @ 15:48 GMT
To: customercare@mobile.match.com
Subject: Re: Match Mobile

Let me make this more clear. It appears that you do not own this site:
http://www.matchmobile.com/

Am I mistaken?

Criminal_Sniper
2003-11-13, 06:27
hahaha done over
:mad:

eclectica
2003-11-13, 20:05
I give up. :confused:

From: customercare@mobile.match.com
Date: 2003-11-13 @ 18:26 GMT
To: eclectica
Subject: Re: Match Mobile

Thanks for Writing:

If you are using the address http://www.matchmobile.com you will be directed to our site, however our address is http://mobile.match.com.

Regards,

Ivan S.
Match.com Customer Care

TRACKING NUMBER: A00001256185-00006193496

Beejus
2003-11-14, 00:52
Intelligence at it's finest.:beer: