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eclectica
2003-09-03, 02:25
Here are the addresses that point to Kazaa Lite:
http://www.doa2.host.sk/
http://www.kazaalitekpp.com/
http://www.freecodecs.com/
http://www.k-lite.tk/
http://www.kazaalite.tk/
http://www.klitesite.com/

I'm trying to figure out the difference between Kazaa Lite and Diet Kazaa (http://www.dietk.com). Diet Kazaa claims to be a legal add-on for Kazaa. Meanwhile, Sharman Networks is totally opposed to Kazaa Lite or any reference of it on other websites.

Based on my understanding, Kazaa Lite is a version of Kazaa that has had the code re-engineered against their permission (a DMCA violation?) to remove the spyware, while Diet Kazaa works in addition to Kazaa, to block the ads.

Most people prefer Kazaa Lite to Diet Kazaa. Here are some of the comments on CNET about Diet Kazaa:
http://download.com.com/3302-2196_4-10186849.html

Here is the CNET section on Kazaa Lite:
http://download.com.com/3000-2196-10216415.html?tag=lst-0-16

As you can see, the section is no longer available. It was available just twelve hours ago. That is because Sharman Networks (http://www.sharmannetworks.com/), which owns the original Kazaa program, is on the war path and sent a DMCA suit to a few websites. Here is more information on that action of theirs:
http://www.chillingeffects.org/dmca512/notice.cgi?NoticeID=789

Criminal_Sniper
2003-09-03, 03:15
they will go under just like napster they have sealed their fate now with the bullshit
they must be fighting the music industry
and i dont think they can say much to any site about dmca shit lmao
next gen P2P is coming soon!

eclectica
2003-09-03, 06:42
There is now much ill will towards Kazaa amongst p2p users because of this.

eclectica
2003-09-03, 18:21
http://sharmannetworks.com/design/corporate/images/logo_sharman.gif

All the KaZaA domain names point to an e-mail address of admin@sharmannetworks.com with the contact name of Phil Morle. Yesterday only the .com was registered. I then registered sharmannetworks.net (http://www.sharmannetworks.net/) and sharmannetworks.org (http://www.sharmannetworks.org). I set them up to be redirected to kazaalitekpp.com (http://www.kazaalitekpp.com/) and chillingeffects.org (http://www.chillingeffects.org/), respectively.

eclectica
2003-09-03, 19:02
In light of the harassment by Sharman Networks towards Kazaa Lite, I am tempted to defy them and install and run the program. Reacting that way would be good because it shows solidarity and defiance against what Sharman Networks stands for. But it also plays the game along their line. Kazaa Lite is in my opinion, an endorsement of Kazaa rather than an anti-Kazaa. What is needed is to think outside of the box, and to just switch to other p2p networks.

eclectica
2003-09-10, 02:46
Just this morning sharmannetworks.org finally started pointing to chillingeffects.org, but there is a problem with sharmannetworks.net, because I had it pointing to kazaalitekpp.com, which is down now. So I changed that one to www.doa2.host.sk. I'm not sure what is the best address of the Kazaa Lite addresses to point to.

It was all supposed to take three days to implement, but it has taken six instead.

eclectica
2003-09-10, 03:03
This is strange but about five minutes after changing the website redirection away from kazaalitekpp.com, then it started working. So I just changed it back again. It could be a coincidence, or maybe the redirection to a website screws up that website? I'll bet there was some human error going on at Network Solutions, and when I changed the redirection to another page, they realized it and fixed their error.

eclectica
2003-09-10, 09:18
I think it was just a coincidence, that kazaalitekpp.com was working for a few minutes after I changed the redirection. It is again not working. I switched the redirection to doa2.host.sk and everything is okay now. The only other possibility I can think, is that redirecting to a site which is already redirected, can cause problems.

Criminal_Sniper
2003-09-10, 16:45
www.doa2.host.sk
thats the most used i think
i dont like it now though they said they would be blocking bad file sources and i got ones in peergaurdian while klite was running that didnt in the last version with the ip blocker
i dont trust it really anymore i can get music clips are legal taped from tv they sure are :)

eclectica
2003-12-06, 19:44
Sharman Networks has threatened the owners of the official Kazaa Lite websites, and they have removed the downloads from their sites. Now if people want to download the program, they will have to find it in other places.

These appear to be the official Kazaa Lite sites:
http://doa2.host.sk/
http://www.kazaalite.tk/
http://www.klitesite.com/

napho
2003-12-09, 22:50
Diet Kaza is the original program that modified Kazaa on the fly (a loader). I think development of Kazaa Lite will continue underground. It's too good of a program to abandon. I started with Kazaa, then Morpheus, Refosearch, Grokster, then back to Lite. It's always connected within a few seconds and had great speed. Of course now the fakes are overwhelming it but dammit, it still connects instantly!

eclectica
2003-12-10, 01:03
The Register (http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/34393.html) article on the latest news of Kazaa Lite mentioned as alternatives: Diet Kazaa, as well as giFT (http://gift.sourceforge.net/), which connects to the Fasttrack, Openfasttrack, Opennapster (old Napster) and Gnutella networks. I wonder what experiences people have had using giFT on the FastTrack network.

Here is a site that is still running Kazaa Lite:
http://www.kplusplus.tk/
I have redirected sharmannetworks.net to that site.

Also, here are other sources for downloading Kazaa Lite:
http://www.filemirrors.com/search.src?type=equals&file=klitekpp243e.exe

Beejus
2003-12-11, 01:00
KaZaA now requires you to pay for the service, in return they take out the ad-ware/spyware ... (or so they claim)...

Also... K-Lite is now DISCONTINUED... however, if you have it, you can still connect to the Sharman Network (for now)

I expected everything to die soon...

KaZaA at first was really good... extremely good... they were about defiance of the RIAA (for what they did to Napster) and they didn't have the ad-ware/spyware bullshit... plus they were FREE...

Then they added more features...blah blah blah, TechTV found out, put them on the air ever since they've changed...

Yay.

slx
2004-01-21, 01:12
if you've got any old version of K lite laying around, it'll work


all the hoopla about this p2p or that p2p reminds me of 2 dudes kicking each other about the type car or truck the other drives

they all basically get you where you want to go with the exception of winmx...it's supposedly the Jaguar of p2p progs....but then we know the reputation the jag developed....snotty owners & always in the shop...ie;


always q'd

winmx is the absolute worst...imo

eclectica
2004-01-21, 01:59
A lot of the links posted earlier in this thread have expired. I stopped updating them because Sharman Networks kept shutting down a good number of them.

These links still work though:
http://www.filemirrors.com/search.src?type=equals&file=klitekpp243e.exe
http://download.freeweb-hosting.com/

Slyck (http://www.slyck.com) has a special subforum (http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=23) devoted to Kazaa Lite. It shows version 2.4.4 as being the latest one released. Yet all the download links have version 2.4.3.

I wonder if Sharman Networks can actually block Kazaa Lite from the FastTrack network. They did that to Morpheus in March 2002.

eclectica
2004-01-21, 03:17
Harvey, you are a seminal fountain of knowledge.

eclectica
2004-03-14, 09:11
Originally posted by wishful thinking
Goddam! did this thread REALLY GET this many views?!?!
Yes, it is because search engines have picked up on this thread. The following search terms were the top five reasons people visited this forum in March 2004:

kazaalitekpp
www.kazaalitekpp.com
kazaalitekpp.com
klitesite
dns

There was actually the most activity in January 2004, with 600 visits to the thread based on just "kazaalitekpp". This month there have been so far 49, because it doesn't come up on top of the search results anymore.

Beejus
2004-03-20, 13:34
Sharman Networks' fate in court on March 11th was decided by one: Judge Wilcox..... hehe, I feel special...I gotta talk to my parents and see if we have any relatives 'down under'..

-GS-
2004-04-03, 14:20
The original forums that was linked from the K-Lite ++ app. has
chanced their address (http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?) and their policy as well.
Its not about K-Lite so much anymore, they talk about other p2p apps too.
After they got threads from the Sharman Network, ppl who did the K-Lite++,
Rundom Nut for example, stated in the forum that he will not continue
developing it.

However, the Developement process has not stopped, there is still ppl
who are "fixing" what ever Kazaa versions there might be coming.

KLiteTools (http://www.klitetools.com/) is one of those.

Kazaa Lite Resurrection (http://kdp.57host.biz/forums/index.php?) is also one of those.

There is also a version called "Clean KMD 2.6". ( I got tired looking for the links/versions)

I dont know how these version work as im using the 2.4.4 vesion,
which is slightly updated vesion from the 2.4.3.
I have been able to DL and search whatever still, with no problem.
There is several different versions out there, and probably will be more in future too.

I dont use that Network much if not at all (test it like 5 mins ago though) so
personally I dont know which version works the best.

So, in my opinion, the Kazaa Lite versions (adfree,spyfree,extra tools) will not
be cut off from the FastTrack network so easily as they want ppl to believe.
Maybe for few days at Max, but Lite version will come back somehow.

Its just a matter of where to find those "good" versions.
There is sooo many scam sites out there, but I think Im safe if I say
this (http://filesharingtalk.com/) is a good place to start the search. Also, google is your friend, he he...

Have a nice day. :)

Paszczak
2004-08-06, 19:20
http://www.warez4u.us - Kazaa Lite Site

assorted
2004-09-19, 23:16
I'm still using this thread when i happen to need some kazaa love.

Speaking of, what's the client of choice right now? With link?

eclectica
2004-09-20, 02:45
No one reputable is working on anything that can connect to the FastTrack network that I know of. Most think because it is controlled by Sharman Networks, that it is a lost cause and making a "lite" version of it is like making Shit Lite. The latest program I know of free of spyware and adware that tried to connect to FastTrack was KCeasy (http://www.3-3-3.org/forum/showthread.php?t=270). They were issued a legal notice by Sharman Networks and now the program doesn't connect anymore to the FastTrack network, but still connects to the OpenFT network.

The ED2K network has at about this moment passed the FastTrack network in size. I recommend eMule (http://www.emule-project.net/) and I rate it right now as the number one p2p client.

nanook
2004-09-20, 10:12
...I rate it right now as the number one p2p client.

Based on what? Amount of users, ie)popularity, available users and/or files, interface/ease of use, or efficiency/speed? Or the one the riaa isn't out to get.lol.

eclectica
2004-09-20, 10:48
Here's why I think eMule is the best p2p client

1. It is open source and has no adware or spyware
2. By default it is meritocratic and gives higher priority to people who are not leeches
3. By default it gives higher priority to rare songs for uploading
4. It uses bandwidth efficiently so that slow people can not hold up queues for everyone else
5. It is compatible with ED2K hash links and connects to ED2K, the largest of the p2p networks

The rest of what makes a p2p application good or not depends on the quality of the members within the network. A network filled with leeches will be crap. I also use WinMX in addition to eMule and I think redundancy is good to have.

nanook
2004-09-21, 07:33
Good info. I use winmx. Would you recommend me trying emule? Only thing is, is that I am one of those with a slow connection.

eclectica
2004-09-21, 11:05
I don't think eMule works too well with a slow connection, but why not give it a try? You may find stuff there that you won't on WinMX. The problem with WinMX is that sometimes you get zero search results or zero successful connections when the primary node you connect to is running like shit. Don't connect to both networks at the same time, because that's too much for your tiny pipes.
:nope:

Unlike WinMX, eMule sets the amount of uploading slots for you automatically. Dialup downloads at around 5.7 KB/s and uploads at around 3.4 KB/s.

assorted
2004-10-28, 07:15
grabbing emule now.

I'm willing to keep an open mind to a kazaa lite replacement, especially as right now kazaa is not on my machine and i'd prefer to keep it off and can't be bothered looking past this thread for a non-spyware infested kazaa.

but i don't really need "the best" p2p client. i need a replacement for kazaa. here's how i use p2p

music - soulseek

movies/popular apps/tv - bittorrent/suprnova

misc - kazaa

I use kazaa when I need some random, pos, third party application like "notmad explorer" or at least a serial for it. i use kazaa when i need a random episode of a semi-popular tv show like sealab and there's nothing currently on suprnova for it. i use kazaa when i'm curious to get that one top 40 song i can't get out of my head and don't want to bother with queues to get it. get it? i use kazaa for my garbage. and as it's the lowest common denominator p2p, it's filled with the exact miscellaneous garbage i need at any given moment.

whether emule will work as a replacement... i dunno, but i'll give it a try.

tim
2004-10-28, 09:35
grabbing emule now.

I'm willing to keep an open mind to a kazaa lite replacement, especially as right now kazaa is not on my machine and i'd prefer to keep it off and can't be bothered looking past this thread for a non-spyware infested kazaa.

but i don't really need "the best" p2p client. i need a replacement for kazaa. here's how i use p2p

music - soulseek

movies/popular apps/tv - bittorrent/suprnova

misc - kazaa

I use kazaa when I need some random, pos, third party application like "notmad explorer" or at least a serial for it. i use kazaa when i need a random episode of a semi-popular tv show like sealab and there's nothing currently on suprnova for it. i use kazaa when i'm curious to get that one top 40 song i can't get out of my head and don't want to bother with queues to get it. get it? i use kazaa for my garbage. and as it's the lowest common denominator p2p, it's filled with the exact miscellaneous garbage i need at any given moment.

whether emule will work as a replacement... i dunno, but i'll give it a try.

Try the "nsane" version of Kazaalite its available here (http://nsane.nm.ru/)

It's the first link on the left that says "Kazaa Lite K++"
When installing it don't install the supertrick or the bad ip updater unless you want to..all it does is modify your host file to block out ad related sites like cydoor (supertrick) and the bad ip updater is like protowall or peerguardian...it blocks 'known' p2p enemies but it blocks a lot of good ip ranges as well...i don't download mp3's on kazaa..that's a no no.

If you want a real replacement for the fasttrack network..you should try Ares it is great/good for mp3's..however edonkey2000 now has version 1.0 of its client out with a bittorrent plugin and its excellent for mp3's..however if you're gonna use fasttrack at least stick with kazaalite..this version was recommended to me by napho..and it replaced my previous recommendation of kazaalite kpp++ 2.43 (by Random Nut).

This version the nsane version has lots of bells and whistles you'll see what I mean..excellent client for fasttrack...just don't install the supertrick or the bad ip updater and you should be fine. :p

eclectica
2004-10-28, 11:37
eMule has a lot of videos and appz. It is open source and free of adware-spyware, as is Shareaza. Ares and eDonkey have some kind of spyware or adware that are optional in the installation. I think that eDonkey also has a banner ad even without the adware and spyware. I stay clear of programs like that.

Maybe you can use WinMX for your miscellaneous popular stuff.

hilo
2004-10-30, 01:43
I think that eDonkey also has a banner ad even without the adware and spyware.



You can eliminate the banner ad by placing the following in your HOSTS file:

127.0.0.1 home.edonkey2000.com
127.0.0.1 home.edonkey.com
127.0.0.1 reg.overnet.com
127.0.0.1 reg.edonkey2000.com
127.0.0.1 reg.edonkey.com

:tu:

nanook
2004-11-02, 12:01
You guys know your shit. I guess if I didn't have dial-up and wanted movies and all the other stuff, I'd have to try something else. But for now, I only download mp3s. And like Tim said, Kazaa is a big no-no. I'd agree using Winmx for misc stuff.
Let us know how you like emule, Assorted.

monk@kazaa
2004-11-07, 17:58
http://sharmannetworks.com/design/corporate/images/logo_sharman.gif

All the KaZaA domain names point to an e-mail address of admin@sharmannetworks.com with the contact name of Phil Morle. Yesterday only the .com was registered. I then registered sharmannetworks.net (http://www.sharmannetworks.net/) and sharmannetworks.org (http://www.sharmannetworks.org). I set them up to be redirected to kazaalitekpp.com (http://www.kazaalitekpp.com/) and chillingeffects.org (http://www.chillingeffects.org/), respectively.

monk@kazaa
2004-11-07, 18:00
i search for an ftp server were i can download faster!!! you can help!
(for kazaa v2.7)

Kazaa Lite K++
2005-11-13, 07:26
http://www.codecpackguide.com/

Kazaa Lite K++
http://klite.codecpackguide.com/

tim
2005-11-13, 11:28
http://www.codecpackguide.com/

Kazaa Lite K++
http://klite.codecpackguide.com/

goddamit I love being me. Don't go here or download anything from this scammer.

eclectica
2005-11-13, 15:47
There is a thread over at Slyck here (http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=15902) that predicts that Kazaa will soon start filtering files and release an updated client, because that is what the Australian judge Wilcox ordered for them to do on September 5th, with a two month grace period given to them.

So if that happens then Kazaa Lite may become more popular because it would, in addition to stopping the adware and spyware, also be a way to get around the filtering.

It would be better though for people to go to another p2p client and network than to try to find ways to fix the abominable Kazaa and FastTrack network. I wonder what the Kazaa users will switch to. In that Slyck thread IceCube suggested that LimeWire and Shareaza would get the emigrating Kazaa users, which I agree is the most likely.

Here are the top 10 Kazaa alternatives as posted by Allied:
Top 10 Kazaa alternatives
10. A mental hospital. You've got to be crazy to be using kazaa.
9. The Bush Administration. You'll be surrounded by people with no intelligence. Kazaa users will feel at home.
8. The movie Gigli. It's hated just as much as Fasttrack.
7. Windows Vista. Like Kazaa, it just won't work.
6. 1330 Connecticut Avenue, NW Suite 300 Washington, District of Columbia 20036 United States. You'll be just as close to the RIAA as you were while using Kazaa.
5. The welfare office. Like the UUhash, only half of the work is done.
4. ES5.
3. The year 2003. After using Kazaa, you'll be ready for 2003's technology.
2. A hammer. Hit your computer with it a few times, it'll have the same effect as Kazaa.
1. Dumpster. Not as polluted as fasttrack, but damn close.

tim
2005-11-13, 16:32
I always found offense at such things as posted by allied because they just simply aren't true. Without going into a history lesson here let's assume 'kazaa' a generic term for 'kazaalite' and or 'fasttrack' the name given to the network of users once exclusive to kazaa, morpheus and grokster users.

The kazaalite nsane version is the ultimate client for the kazaa network.
for those who don't know how it works. This version like ANY version of kazaa comes prepackaged with a pathetically encrypted list of exactly 100 ip addresses which it connects to try and establish communication so that one can join the network.

There is still a group of central servers providing access keys for clients wishing to join the network which at one time did filter by the client identification string example users clients identifing themselves as '@Morpheus' would be denied access to the fasttrack network. This happened with version 1.33 of the client.

Since Random nut's development of kazaa light this user string is now changeable to anything including '@napster'. Nsane's version of kazaa won't connect to anything...at least my old version of it won't because the ip's are out of date.

There is however a utility called 'Kazaasupernodes' which lets you enter a NUMERICAL ip address and port number for a supernode of your choice. A dedicated supernode server is fm2.imesh.com:1214 (you'll need to resolve the ip yourself..its easy..just do a whois)

Put that in kazaasupernodes and select 'connect to supernode' you'll immediately get a fresh list of supernodes.

Something that just occurred to me. The 7 to 8 central servers aren't included in the version I have of kazaa so there is no connectivity for me.

There is probably another way to refuse access to the network possibly due to version number of the client in the id string. But the fact you only need an ip address of a current working supernode to gain access to the network suggests it can't be shut down.

But the control shown with locking out the Morpheus client suggests otherwise. its also a safe bet that the 7or 8 central supernode servers owned by Niklas Zennstrom the creator of kazaa/skype could filter at the centrally controlled level thus overriding individual clients settings for not having any filtering.

This is my theory anyway. If the the central servers force an upgrade to a new version to implement this then it breaks kazaalite. If they just filter centrally it shows they do have control over the content of the network and kinda fucks them over royally as they are liabel for the content shared on their network by demonstrating control.

It's unlikely they'll filter content centrally due to liability but they can definitely force an upgrade to another client having them use a different 'handshake' or protocol thus speaking a different language.

All traffic is routed through the central servers eventually working the same way a bittorrent tracker works or a hub works in a direct connect type environment.

Searches that go through central servers can be filtered. Clients can be refused.